If you don't want women to do whatever they need to do then you must provide them with food, you must provide them with shelter and their basic human rights.

You can't be a great mum and work the whole time necessarily those two things aren't ideal. We have an awful lot to work on and to debate about in relation to our working lives, because it isn't working for a lot of people, particularly for a lot of women.

I don't think people understand that being poor means you have to work from dawn until dusk just to survive through the day. I think there's some notion that poor people lie about all day not doing anything.